Dave Ringler of the Cedar Springs Brewing Company talks about his newest release, "Silk & Velvet," named after a song by The Great Daryl Nathan, a local GRTV legend from the '90s. John and Amy talk to Dave about the beer, which is a traditional porter with a dry finish. (6.9% ABV, 38 IBU) The beer will be released the week of Nov. 12, 2018.