John Gonzalez and Amy Sherman guest on West Michigan Live with Justin Barclay and bring along David Ringler of Cedar Springs Brewing. Why? Well, he makes great German-inspired beer and great pretzels, just in time for National Pretzel Day.

BTM Episode 157: On the Michigan Wine Trail in Southwest Michigan

"Behind the Mitten" is Michigan's premiere travel radio show and Podcast and has nearly 700 episodes. In 2025 it celebrates 10 years! It is co-hosted by John Gonzalez and Amy Sherman. John is a longtime journalist, social media early adopter and member of the Central Michigan University Journalism Hall of Fame. Amy is a former chef with 20-plus experience, craft beer expert and freelance writer. The show has been recognized by the Michigan Association of Broadcasters as Best in Category. Learn more at https://www.facebook.com/behindthemitten.