In this week’s episode, host Joe Giddens sits down with Julie Haney, the program lead at the US National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), to discuss the recent Gartner report, “Security Awareness Efforts Fall Short. Now What?”

Julie and Joe delve into the challenges faced by security professionals running programs and the mounting urgency to measure program effectiveness.

Julie’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-haney-037449119/