Jordan Sillars joins host Clay Newcomb alongside Render crew members Dr. Misty Newcomb, Kristie Spielmaker, and Josh “Landbridge” Spielmaker for a behind-the-scenes look at the making of his hit Blood Trails true crime podcast. Jordan shares stories from the field, lessons learned during production, and advice on the basics of how to avoid foul play in the wilderness.

The conversation also turns to Bear Grease episode 457, Civil War Part 1: The Seeds of War, as the crew reflects on the moments, perspectives, and historical insights that challenged them or left a lasting impact.

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