This episode is a small snippet of my rise and fall as a leader  

Each episode contains a lot of the reasons why i started This and That clothing and why its more then just a clothing brand.

This was hard for me to talk about but i knew that i had to open up about this point of time in my life because it was a defining moment for me and drives me to build what i'm trying to build.

Making money is easy but creating a brand that can inspire the next generation and support them is hard