Author of "Quitting" Julia Keller joins the podcast to talk about how quitting is good actually, the toxic myth of perseverance, capitalist striving, and grit, and the difference between quitting for a dream and quitting just to vibe. Plus, impulsivity and regret, rethinking living paycheck to paycheck, and ending the judgement around just freaking quitting everything. Set yourself free!

A note: At the end of the interview, Gabe and Julia discuss some accidental transphobia that happens in the book and it has a positive outcome. Take care while listening!

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Produced by Melisa D. Monts

Edited by Diane Kang

Post-Production Sound by Coco Llorens

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