This episode features a friend of mine, Leslie Kurmann, who still is on the search to overcome his back pains sustainably. His credo is: sticking to the plan until you succeed. A vulnerable talk with a man sharing his bumpy journey with us.

Watch us discuss: Why it is so hard to change a lifelong false posture; his failure of succeeding for the long-term so far; why you always have the time to look after your back; how a normal working day destroys his efforts he had made regarding his back; explaining how pain is costing you energy and much more.