Ayahuasca Podcast with Sam Believ
Ayahuasca Podcast with Sam Believ
Sam Believ
The Dark Side of the Ayahuasca Space with Kat Courtney
51 minutes Posted Sep 14, 2026 at 8:04 pm.
02:00: Kat’s background, healing journey with Ayahuasca, and the natural multidimensional state of consciousness
05:15: Transitioning from corporate game production at Disney to traditional shamanic plant medicine
07:40: Overcoming bipolar diagnosis, bulimia, alcoholism, and finding hope through Ayahuasca
11:05: Navigating grief and the transition of loved ones through death doula perspectives and the Ho'oponopono prayer
14:48: Exploring Ayahuasca as the "vine of the dead," ego deaths, and psychedelic birth/grief portals
18:20: Addressing abuse in the plant medicine space, teacher falls from grace, and accountability for the ego
20:00: Shadow work, Carl Jung, and discovering the "golden shadow" and hidden superpowers
22:15: Ayahuasca's impact on dysregulated nervous systems and the importance of gentle titration
25:00: The reality of sitting in over 1,000 ceremonies as an apprentice and facilitator
29:00: Kat's legal battles with Homeland Security, federal charges, and navigating systemic hypocrisy around DMT
34:40: The dangers of fast-tracked facilitators, energetic safety, and physical/emotional risks
37:00: How Ayahuasca learns and evolves alongside human consciousness
40:25: Handling projections, pedestals, and participant trauma as a facilitator
44:50: Practical integration, avoiding the "ceremony slump," and connecting with nature
49:10: Daily self-check-ins, holding hope for collective consciousness, and closing thoughts
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Show notes
In this episode of Ayahuasca Podcast, host Sam Believ (founder of www.lawayra.com) has a conversation with Kat Courtney. Kat is a traditionally trained ayahuasquera, huachumera, pioneering integration coach, and dedicated death doula. After completing a decade-long apprenticeship in the Amazon within the Shipibo-Conibo lineage, she founded Plant Medicine People to help seekers safely navigate the world of psychedelics.
If you would like to attend one of our Ayahuasca retreats go to www.lawayra.com.
Find more about Kat Courtney at www.plantmedicinepeople.com.