Simon speaks with Mark Shwartz (Enterprise Strategist - AWS) about his latest book, and how the relationship between IT and non-IT leaders is changing. n the war for business supremacy, Schwartz shows we must throw out the old management models and stereotypes that pit suits against nerds. Instead, business leaders of today can foster a space of collaboration and shared mission, a space that puts technologists and business people on the same team. Get Mark's latest book here: https://www.amazon.com/War-Peace-Business-Leadership-Technology/dp/B07QVB1ZRG