In this episode, Kendall, rachel, and Marilyn talk about:

• Wishing HAPPY BIRTHDAY to our guest :)
• Growing up in a household that had computers
• Working in tech: doing math, but also making money!
• Going back to school, getting an internship at Google
• The value of just having credentials (why to get a Masters degree)
• The Wrong Kind of Management Training
• Going back to being an IC....briefly
• Getting crappy leadership advice
• When not to "lighten the mood" and how the rules are different for men vs women
• Enjoying the peer support of being a leader among several instead of being The One Boss
• Educating Kendall about K&R, a rare opportunity to gatekeep for rachel :)
• Enjoying being involved in decisionmaking vs being The Authority
• Enthusiasm for houseplants and reading during the pandemic

You can find Marilyn on Twitter as @mmmarilyn :)

Special thanks to Mel Stanley for our theme music <3