The girls are joined by Rebecca Jennings of Vox to discuss the endless grind of self-promotion online as an artiste, how the insult "sell out" became obsolete, and some lingering thoughts on Ms. Swift's tortured existence.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2024/2/1/24056883/tiktok-self-promotion-artist-career-how-to-build-following 

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