Show notes
For the first episode of Season Two Emily and Lara are joined by an extraordinary guest - Carla Upton, their sister/auntie.
After five and half years of different diets, reading up on the best ways to conceive, fertility treatment for a year and a loss of child along the way, her day had finally arrived – she had gone into labour. It was 5 am on 17th March 2020. Carla shares her story of desire, struggle and eventually joy as she welcomed Jack White into the world.



