James and Claudia talk with , author of the book ,to talk aboutwhy people get fat and get unhealthy. Do carbohydrates make you fat? His conclusions are surprising. He disagrees strongly that we get fat because we are lazy and eat too much. Rather than being due simply to gluttony, sloth, and conscious decisions around how much we eat or move.   If you've been on a low- or no-carb diet or are just looking for an alternative to eating healthy, listen here.