Robert and I talk about what it’s like to serve Twenty years in prison, while using burpees to train your mind and body to get the most out of every day. This book honors the lessons that his father Ruben taught home while they were in prison together. We talk about our lives out here in society, and the obstacles we face. My longest episode to date, it was great catching up with my buddy Rob, and an honor to meet his brother Ruben Jr.