Photographer and singer-songwriter, Jenny Ashley stops by the podcast to talk about what she would do if she could not fail, working on a couple of bad novels, writing a song for gnome-smashing vandals, recording with Jon Bartel, building relationships with her half siblings, getting back into photography, Justin Vernon, disappointing Neal Breton, critical thinking, Elliott Smith therapy, grading papers in the bathtub, making a divorce work, letting boys cry, the missing component of her marriage, praying with her kids, and taking her son to judo class so he won't hurt her. Find her online at: https://www.jennyashleyphotography.com/ or https://jennyashley.bandcamp.com/ Or follow her on Instagram: @jenny_bsides