Have you ever asked yourself what you truly want? For many, it’s a hard question to answer. It takes intentional, deep self-reflection and a commitment to excavating your real desires.

In this episode, Cathy and Van interview Bonnie Wan, author of The Life Brief, a practical guide to bold living. Bonnie shares her own story, getting messy, getting clear, and getting active when it comes to creatively and courageously living the life you truly want.