Join us for the conversation with Donna & Todd.  These guys are back... and we're loving every moment of the conversation.  We talk love... Todd declares he's picking up Donna from Washington D.C. while living in Orange, Cali...that's 39 hours driving,  all the mean while declaring his love via tape. (aka audio tape).

Todd shares about apologetics, the meaning of it and bringing it alive to everyone. We share sleeping positions and Esther mentions she is a confrontational sleep talker.  Donna shares about playing football (the American kind), re-doing marriage vowels and large rings.

If you are reading this... thanks so much for listening.  Big love x

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This was pre-recorded mid-February 2021