Intro

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Portland & The Simpsons

How Josh & I met

Growing up in the middle of Missouri

Josh & Kevin’s Bromance

First memorable piece of design

First experiences with the internet

Rudimental Drumming

Ol’ Town Road Story & Hip Hop’s Influence

Learning basic web design

Old online design portals

Seth Ericson

Being young & dumb

Meeting Michael Cina

Moving to California

Gary Benzel/Green Lady

Getting better at design

Wanting to switch careers

“It’s not easy to be creative for a living. There’s peaks and valleys and there’s times when you’re kinda numb or you maybe had a good year then a bad year. I’m not trying to say this in a negative way, but it’s not discussed as much publicly. I think it’s discussed a lot in one-on-one coffee meetings, but you’re not seeing it from the stage in design conferences.” 51:48

Working at Lambesis

The luster of working on big brands

Alex Bogusky

Working then and now

Seasons of being a creative professional

Big agency work-life / Missouri / Back to California

Basic Agency

Ego & work

Original content

Working at CPB

Working at W+K

Working on a 6 month project that never got made

Creating separation from your hired work

Working within restraints

Going independent

Loving being laid off

Throwing a recess party in a loft

Freelancing means you need to be good with your money

Starting up an agency

Doing work that solely pays the bills

Rules for social media

Know where your money is going

Jocko Wilink

Throwing your back out

Taking youth for granted

Freelancing

Success without social media

Brain Pickings / Maria Popova

Mike Cina Great Discontent Interview

Designers who merge their personal life with their work

Cultivating taste

Studios with only one style

Be careful when criticizing younger creators

Designer Radar: Braulio Amada, Brian Collins, Tobias Van Schneider, Mike Cina

Compare/Contrast with Michael Eastman podcast

The benefits of knowing design

Outro