Ainsley Hay chats to Heinz Ortman, a tour guide from RockJumper Birding Tours, about bird tours, the technicalities of guiding as well the amazing trips that RockJumper do.

AnimalCentral is a show for animal lovers, all about the creatures we love. Ainsley Hay is a qualified veterinary nurse with over 12 years experience working with pretty much any kind of animal you can think of. She is passionate about wildlife and animal welfare. Ainsley is owned by two rescue pets, a French Bulldog called Gus and a cat called Nubbins.