This week we are joined by director and animator, John Lumgair who heads up Quirky Motion. We talk about how he got into animation and revisit the film, The Secret of Kells.We uncover the rich themes and symbolism, from the contrast between darkness and light to the mystical character of Aisling. Drawing parallels to biblical passages and early Christian literature like "The Dream of the Rood," we reflect on the film's blend of Christian and pagan motifs.Check out John on  Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/quirkymotion/]Check out the Jazz Cow Kickstarter [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/johnlumgair/jazz-cow-animated-sitcom-22-min-pilot]_____________________________________________________________________________Follow us:Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/anilujahpodcast/]Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/anilujahpodcast]YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@anilujahpodcast]TIkTok [https://www.tiktok.com/@anilujahpodcast]