About the Rest
About the Rest
Joe Rodriguez
Courts Hand CRNAs a Win
1 hour 3 minutes Posted Jul 21, 2026 at 9:00 am.
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Six days before a federal rule was set to take effect, the courts stepped in. The Department of Education tried to redefine who counts as a professional, a move that would have capped student loans for nurse anesthetists and the advanced-practice clinicians training behind them. The courts said the challenge is likely to succeed and hit pause.
This week I sat down with Tracy Young, twenty-six years in the field, and Randy Moore, who runs anesthesia at enterprise scale, to work through what the ruling actually means and what it does not. It is a win in a battle, not the war.
We get into the argument a federal regulator made that landed harder than we wanted to admit, why a rule written to require supervision is now being used against us, and where the line sits between what government should decide and what the people doing the work should. Plus the student-loan fight both parties get half-right, and why credentials stopped predicting who can lead.
Good information first. Then the honest conversation about where anesthesia goes next.
TAKEAWAYS
The court blocked the rule on a preliminary injunction, not the merits. It buys time. It does not end the fight.
The professional designation fight has real money behind it. Redefining the term caps federal loans for CRNAs, PAs, and nurse practitioners.
The strongest argument against us was ours to fix. A federal statute still references supervision, and that language is being used to question our standing.
Both sides of the student-loan debate are right. Treat the subsidy as a return question, and CRNAs are a good bet. We pass boards 95 percent of the time.
Regulators are the wrong body to design clinical practice. The people closest to the work adapt faster than any rule can.
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Thanks for my co-hosts:
Randy Moore (EVP & National Chief CRNA, NorthStar Anesthesia)
Tracy Young: Incoming President of the American Association of Nurse Anesthesiology
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