I had another fascinating chat with Ocean, the spiritual traveller.

We talked about: The real world as a virtual reality, Consciousness, Matrix, Elon Musk, Climate change “story” (how he likes to call it), City on Mars and many more.

Some websites that Ocean recommended for further information about the things he talks about:

Elena Danaan - https://www.youtube.com/@ElenaDanaan

Michael Salla - https://exopolitics.org/

Kim on United New Network - https://unitednetwork.nunchee.tv/home

Up the Vibe (Joe Hodgson) - https://www.youtube.com/@upthevibe