We’ve just celebrated the 5 year anniversary of our fateful meeting at a gathering for tech entrepreneurs in the mountains of Colorado. This was the birth of a friendship that’s evolved into the business we run together today.

In this tell-all episode, we discuss what’s surprised us so far in our business journey, what we’re most proud of, and what advice we’d give to someone just starting out in online business.

Joy: On Being Human by Jennifer Pastiloff

Hustle: real estate investing