After 16 years of service to the government, Dolley and James finally get to leave Washington and retire to Montpelier for good. Portraits and transcript available at <a href= "https://americasfirstladiespodcast.com/episode-4-13/" target= "_blank" rel= "noopener">americasfirstladiespodcast.com/episode-4-13/</a> Music by <a href="https://mattdull.bandcamp.com/" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">Matt Dull</a> The book I mention toward the end of this episode, Madison's Hand: Revising the Constitutional Convention by Mary Sarah Bilder, can be found <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Madisons-Hand-Revising-Constitutional-Convention/dp/0674979745" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a>.

4.14 Life After James

How much do you really know about America's First Ladies? This podcast takes a deep look at every woman who has served as First Lady, going chronologically and starting at the beginning, with Martha Washington. This is an easy listen, not like sitting through a boring lecture. These women led vibrant lives, and together, we can get to know them better. Each season is a long-form narrative covering the life of a different First Lady. New episodes released on Fridays.