Kees van der Pijl joins us to discuss his important new book, Israel and 9/11: The Rise of Atlantic Zionism.Want to hear American Exception episodes the moment they drop? Follow American Exception on Patreon! Even the free tier gets first access! Subscribe and get access to the entire library of American Exception, including the Gray Alliance series with Max Arvo, and the oral history with Peter Dale Scott, subscribe to American Exception on Patreon.Special thanks to:Dana Chavarria, productionCasey Moore, graphicsMichelle Boley, animated introMock Orange, music