Max Smith is a three-time All-American track athlete who ran on fantastic Providence College teams in the early 2000s. If you’ve ever seen the video of Alan Webb breaking the American mile record in 2007, the guy who finished in second place? Max Smith. I couldn’t get Alan Webb on the podcast so...Max Smith it is.

Max runs us through his trajectory as an elite track runner from his early days in his home country of New Zealand where he started running to lose weight to be more fit for rugby. We hear about epic runs in the mountains of New Zealand where the local running community supported and guided him to eventually being recruited by Providence College, making the difficult transition to an entirely new country, and his long process becoming a US citizen.

This conversation with Max Smith is about allowing our skill sets to be drastically improved by surrounding ourselves with hard working, talented people, including our partners when raising children in this strange modern world.

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