<p>On this episode of AM Radio, Amy and I discuss proper backpack zipper placement, we continue our discussion of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Church-Refugees-Sociologists-reveal-people/dp/1470725924/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1435727816&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=church+refugees">Church Refugees</a>, and unpack what all this means for how we lead <a href="http://vnorth.org/">Vineyard North</a>.</p>
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AM Radio: It Was Beautiful To Be With You

A podcast for those knee deep in church. Michael and Amy discuss their journey as pastors who thought their church days were over.