Tom and Will adopt Bolek’s “go with the flow” approach to life in this meandering conversation, which includes a heated debate on trans athletes’ right to compete while lamenting their own diminishing athletic prowess. Tom suggests a method to help women appeal to the “protector” mentality in their men when they want them to do something. The guys also applaud the tenacity and courage of immigrants, while recognizing their own privilege despite lackluster SAT performances. Will calls Tom out for starting CrossFit out of jealousy, which leads to sharing stories about getting into fights as younger men.