Joe Krebs speaks with Arie Van Bennekum about the creation of the Agile Manifesto but also the time before and after the event on FEB 11-13, 2001 at the snowbird in Utah. Arie is one of the 17 authors of the Agile Manifesto, a pragmatist who accommodates his pragmatism in structure, discipline and common sense. He is not afraid to enter untrained paths and take risks. He has done this since his first days in health care, later in the armed forces, and he continues to do so today. This has led to his special position as co-author of the Agile Manifesto. In the course of his Agile years Arie has become an expert in the field of business transformations towards Agile on the basis of strategic objectives and link this to very concrete objectives. He focuses on delivering value, bringing efficiency and creating support among stakeholders, through role and chain clarity based on the business model and the work packages.