Our conversation with Dr. Avi Loeb, the Frank B. Baird Jr. Professor of Science at Harvard university, Director, Institute for Theory and Computation (ITC), Founding Director, Black Hole Initiative (BHI), and author of the New York Times best seller Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth. Buy “Extraterrestrial”: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth at: https://www.amazon.com/Extraterrestrial-First-Intelligent-Beyond-Earth-ebook/dp/B081TTY4NX. See more from Dr. Loeb at: https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/~loeb/.