As I wrap up my series at Skills Ontario 2018 Provincial Competition I am bringing you a special double header episode. First is Plumber and Plumbing Instructor Tim Wilkinson. Tim really breaks down the idea of you get what you pay for when hiring and considering hiring a plumber. On the second half of the episode we get to sit with Skills Ontario Alumni Association Board Member Dalton Bird. Dalton shares his journey through his Skills Competitions both Provincially and Nationally and what the Alumni Association is up to. I hope these longer episodes are more your flavour as I move forward in the podcast I will be spending more time deconstructing my guests on a larger scope to bring you more about how they got where they are, the challenges they have faced and what they hope for the future.