<p>North Carolina's embarrassing loss at Miami once again brings attention to the Tar Heels level of effort. Meanwhile, Duke might be without Trevor Keels for a bit.
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Talking season is over and expectations are now set for NC State football

WRAL Sports' Lauren Brownlow and 99.9FM The Fan's Joe Ovies have a combined 50 years of following ACC football and basketball from the center of it all on Tobacco Road. Listen for more an irreverent slant on conference action, but stick around for the times they stumble into actual analysis of games.