<p>We talk about travel, global temperature change, water rodents, and body hacking.</p>

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<h2 id="useful-links">Useful links:</h2>

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<li>Izzy&rsquo;s Packing List
<img src="https://www.abovethemess.com/uploads/2022/c87bc0243a.jpg" width="600" height="800" alt="Izzy's Packing List" /></li>
<li><a href="https://maintenancephase.buzzsprout.com/1411126/6524683-anti-fat-bias">Maintenance Phase: Anti-Fat Bias</a></li>
<li><a href="https://shop.clifbar.com/collections/builders">Clif Builder Bars</a></li>
<li><a href="https://apps.npr.org/tshirt/#/title">Planet Money Makes a T-Shirt</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.patagonia.com/our-footprint/">Patagonia&rsquo;s Environmental Efforts</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wornwear.patagonia.com">WornWear: Patagonia&rsquo;s Used Clothing Shop</a></li>
<li><a href="https://thisislovepodcast.com/episode-40-grandfather-of-the-forest/">This Is Love: Grandfather of the Forest</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2019/04/29/what-it-takes-bring-back-near-mythical-american-chestnut-trees">What It Takes to Bring Back the Near Mythical American Chestnut Trees</a></li>
<li><a href="https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/galaxy-brain/623d45efdc551a00208acf88/data-hoarding-google-health-effect/">Confessions of an Information Hoarder</a></li>
<li><a href="https://climateactiontracker.org/global/temperatures/">Climate Action Tracker</a></li>
<li><a href="https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2865/a-degree-of-concern-why-global-temperatures-matter/">A Degree of Concern</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/09/humans-have-caused-unprecedented-and-irreversible-change-to-climate-scientists-warn">Major climate changes inevitable and unavoidable</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bookshop.org/books/climate-solutions-beyond-capitalism/9780991030361">Climate Solutions Beyond Capitalism by Tina Landis*</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/73416/9780143130444">Drawdown: The Most Comprehensive Plan Ever Proposed to Reverse Global Warming*</a></li>
<li><a href="https://drawdown.org">Project Drawdown</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nps.gov/articles/north-american-beaver-acadia.htm">Beavers as a Keystone Species</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11000902/">Our Flag Means Death</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_fasting#Scientific_basis">Scientific Basis: Dopamine Fasting</a></li>
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<h3 id="where-to-find-above-the-mess">Where to find Above the Mess:</h3>

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Episode 14: Not Qualified to Talk about Any of It

The podcast that follows us as we bounce between our interests, dive down rabbit holes, navigate our brains, and come up in wonderland!