In this special episode, Michael and former AA Live host Martin welcome Dr Dawn Eden Goldstein, author of Father Ed: The Story of Bill W.'s Spiritual Sponsor — the acclaimed biography of Jesuit priest Father Edward Dowling, whose remarkable friendship with AA co-founder Bill Wilson helped shape the spiritual heart of Alcoholics Anonymous. Dawn brings a unique perspective to Father Ed's story — she began her career as a rock and roll journalist in New York City before a profound conversion experience led her to become a theologian and canon lawyer. She joins us from Connecticut, USA, for a conversation about Father Ed's extraordinary ministry, the deep connections between Ignatian spirituality and the Twelve Steps, and the unconditional love at the heart of the AA fellowship.