Jordan is conservative.  Chris is liberal.  At Yale Law School in 2016, they struck up an unexpected friendship. 

Since then, they've made 5 joint road trips across the United States, spending time with truckers, prisoners, day laborers, and everyday Americans trying to get a better sense of our vast country.  Their journeys are now chronicled in their new book "Union: A Democrat, A Republican, and a Search for Common Ground."

In this episode we explore:

-How to build friendships across political divides

-What it's like to ride with a professional trucker for weeks on end

-Widespread nuance in individual beliefs, despite outward appearances

-How to scale intentional relationships in a winner-take-all social media age