In this week's episode you'll hear two very interesting chats that Sumit Bose had at COP26.

The first was an obscure stand behind the back of the Blue Zone where I met Vincent Huang the offical artist of Tuvalu - he is bizarrely Tiwanese and specialises in art depicting climate change, frankly fascinating and the second part is a conversation with an old friend of ours here at futurenetzero.com - Angus Forbes who was a co-host on series one of Gaia Says No.