In this episode we talk about our editor Carter. Carter is legion. Then we talk about climate change, and student debt. We chat about Kurtis Conner and the Very Really Good podcast, plus we talk about the Gus and Eddy podcast. Really, we just talk about podcasts better than ours. Then we discuss a crazy Oklahoma news paper called Jailbirds. It’s… wild. Then we talk about flat earth and meme formats.