In which Harry and Mairead discuss America at the turn of the 20th century and innovation.

For more on innovation, Mairead recommends The Entrepreneurial State by Mariana Mazzucato, and referenced articles about blue sky research and types of innovation.

Harry’s theme was inspired by the book Spoiled Brats by Simon Rich.

Our engineer is Nick Shoup.

We’re on instagram @aforeffortcast, with art by Marielle Wall [Instagram, website].

Our music is “Chop Shop (Instrumental)” by White Flowers, and our logo is by ei8htz.