Hi, Spring fans! `Happy happy = new Year(2025)!` It's a new year and a new opportunity! In this episode I talk to my friend and legendary technologist Dez Blanchfield!

Dr. Dave Syer on the new and nifty Spring gRPC project

I'm Josh Long (@starbuxman), a humble Spring developer advocate at @VMWare, and this is A Bootiful Podcast (@BootifulPodcast), a celebration of the real heroes that drive ecosystems.