What a beautiful and expansive conversation. Susan and Kathleen explore so much rich territory...humane and conscious work in the corporate realm, step-parenting and family dynamics, and a few unexpected ways into spirit and selfhood. Kathleen shares how her childhood with an alcoholic mother still informs her identity and choices, creating a functional empathy, as she approaches her 50th birthday. Filled with tender moments of revelation and some laughter too. I think you'...