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Get access to The Backroom (100+ exclusive episodes of 1Dime Radio) on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/OneDimeIn this episode of 1Dime Radio, I am joined by Peter Ryan, founder of Ryan Research, to recover a forgotten tradition of political economy that refuses the usual choice between Marxism and free-market liberalism. We contrast Karl Marx with Friedrich List and Matthew and Henry Carey, trace economic nationalism from the American System to MMT and Ha-Joon Chang, and ask whether national sovereignty, protectionism, and state capacity offer a more practical path to development and anti-imperialism.In The Backroom, the Patreon-exclusive segment, we expand this conversation across three additional episodes with Peter Ryan. We discuss nationalist internationalism and Arnold Toynbee’s theory of civilizational cycles; Henry Carey, rentierism, Marxism, and the Irish struggle for national liberation; and, in a nearly three-hour finale, the post-left/post-right convergence, the moral limits of markets, immigration, industrial policy, class coalitions, empire, and whether any populist project can escape establishment capture.You can listen to 1Dime Radio on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get podcasts.Timestamps:0:00 The Backroom Preview: Nationalism Against Imperialism3:52 1Dime Radio Intro4:50 Peter Ryan and the Forgotten Economic Tradition15:07 Karl Marx Versus Friedrich List22:57 MMT and the Forgotten History of Monetary Sovereignty34:05 Beyond Libertarianism: Why State Capacity Matters46:43 Who Controls the State?57:02 Friedrich List and the Carey School1:07:26 War, Industry, and America’s Protectionist Turn1:15:50 Matthew and Henry Carey1:27:27 Henry Carey, Lincoln, and Marx1:34:06 Nationalist Internationalism and The BackroomGUEST:Peter Ryan is the founder of Ryan Research, where he writes and consults on economics, history, technology, and business strategy. His work has appeared in Compact, UnHerd, Gript, and other publications.* Ryan Research YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfRArvBl7O7AuQFtTTKaUCw* Ryan Research Substack: https://ryanresearch.substack.com/* Ryan Research website: https://www.ryanresearch.co/* Our previous conversation, “Critiquing Left and Right”: https://ryanresearch.substack.com/p/critiquing-left-and-right-tony-chamasBOOKS DISCUSSED:* Roman Szporluk, Communism and Nationalism: Karl Marx Versus Friedrich Listhttps://books.google.com/books?id=8BfoCwAAQBAJ* Friedrich List, The National System of Political Economyhttps://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/lloyd-the-national-system-of-political-economy* Ha-Joon Chang, Kicking Away the Ladder: Development Strategy in Historical Perspectivehttps://anthempress.com/books/kicking-away-the-ladder-pb* Ha-Joon Chang, Bad Samaritans: The Myth of Free Trade and the Secret History of Capitalismhttps://hajoonchang.net/writingsPETER RYAN ON THE CAREY SCHOOL:* “The Carey Project Launch”https://ryanresearch.substack.com/p/the-carey-project-launch-partnered* “Rent Is a Symptom, Not the Disease: A Careyist Review of Economic Rents”https://ryanresearch.substack.com/p/rent-is-a-symptom-not-the-diseaseRELATED ESSAY:* “Nationalist Internationalism: The Case for Nationalism Beyond the Nation-State”https://1dimereview.substack.com/p/nationalist-internationalismFOLLOW 1Dime:* 1Dime Radio YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/@1dimeradio* Substack: https://1dimereview.substack.com/* X/Twitter: https://x.com/1DimeOfficial* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tonyof1dime/* Main 1Dime YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@1DimeeLeave a like, comment, and subscribe. Give 1Dime Radio a 5-star rating on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.


