Plus: Forest, Villa and Liverpool’s striker problems Nottingham Forest returned to Europe with an impressive draw away at Betis, are Forest fans warming to Angeball?Was Hugo Ekitike stupid or passionate? Do his actions speak to the wider cult of young players, looking for Instagram moments and perhaps thinking less about the team?After the break Jonathan Northcroft outlines his thoughts on the changing face of modern coaches – one type who wants to be seen as the author or controller of everything and an alternate style which offers more freedom and decision making to players. And has Unai Emery been strengthened or weakened at Villa?Gregor Robertson is joined by Martin Samuel and Jonathan Northcroft<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Arsenal show their mettle as Palace, Brighton and Brentford rock the big guns

The thinking fan's&nbsp;football podcast,&nbsp;providing previews and reviews of all the action - every Monday and Thursday.&nbsp;Listen to the best of The Times and The Sunday Times journalists as they cover the biggest sport on the planet; from winners to losers, who's in and out on the transfer roundabout, tactical developments, data analysis and the dreaded VAR.Hosted by Tom Clarke and Gregor Robertson alongside special guest appearances, the team bring you the latest on the Premier League and the EFL, as well as a front-row seat to international tournaments including the Champions League, European Championships and World Cups.We know football isn't life and death. It's much more serious than that. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.