As someone who has been both a listener, and a guest on the show, I can say that Katie has a gift for pulling interesting and helpful nuggets out of her guests!

Katie does a great job asking great questions and covering topics that need to be covered… Such a good podcast! Thank you for doing this! :)

Katie has cracked the code on something most leadership content gets wrong: you don't have to choose between being human and holding people accountable. Turns out, the two actually go hand in hand. With sharp wit and a refreshingly real personality, she serves up honest stories of leadership wins and failures, and makes both equally useful. The advice lands whether you are managing a team of fifty, just starting your management journey, or simply trying to get your life together. Think Outside the Boss is smart, funny, genuinely useful, and does exactly what it promises — makes you think about what good leadership should look like.

Katie keeps it real in a way of a lot of leadership content just doesn’t. No fluff, no corporate jargon, none of that flower advice that sounds good in the moment but leaves you thinking, “how do I actually do that here?” She talks about what leaders really deal with when it comes to managing people, and gives practical ways to handle it. Not theories or unrealistic checklist, but real life situations with advice you can actually use. If you want honest down-to-earth guidance you can relate to and apply, this podcast is it!