Free Radicals
Free Radicals
Daniel Shur and Eric Dai
Stop optimizing your health and start campaigning against aging - Andrew Steele, Activist & Author
1 hour 18 minutes Posted Aug 4, 2026 at 1:37 pm.
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Health podcasts are probably shortening your life expectancy. Not just because of the health anxiety they create, but because that time could instead be spent writing a letter to your congressperson.

Aging kills 85% of Americans, and the US spends $15-20 per person per year on cancer research but only $1 on aging biology. No amount of zone 2 and sauna are going to save you from that gap.

I sat down with Andrew Steele, scientist, author of Ageless, and founder of the Longevity Initiative, to talk about closing it. His position: if he had $10M to spend on his own longevity, he'd spend every dollar on policy and communication, because that's where the leverage is.

With health systems pushed to their limits and demographic crises looming, the time is right to organize against aging.

Andrew is a phenomenal communicator, and played a huge role in inspiring me to start this podcast. You’re gonna love listening to him, and I highly recommend you follow him as well.

Special thank you to Adam Gries and vitalismfoundation.org for hosting us at Vitalist Bay!