<p>Michael and Andy discuss their roles as daily intelligence briefers for former President George W. Bush. They share their experiences inside the Oval Office, the unique challenges of the job, and how they dealt with constant pressure and performance expectations.</p> <p>Note: This episode contains an expletive. </p>

'Chilling' Pre-911 video & the threat lanscape: Michael & Andy

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