Volts
Volts
David Roberts
The grueling fight to pass the Inflation Reduction Act
1 hour 4 minutes Posted Oct 7, 2026 at 10:06 am.
– Welcome and housekeeping03:05 – The twins, the NICU, and writing the book08:51 – Carbon footprint vs. carbon wave13:39 – Sam Ricketts and 100% clean electricity18:13 – Why electricity is the core of the solution23:28 – Utilities and the politics of change26:18 – Tech companies and data centers29:11 – Inside the Manchin negotiations33:57 – Why Manchin got to yes38:46 – Trump, setbacks, and where things stand42:55 – Clean energy politics and the global shift46:25 – Audience Q&A: the transmission gridlock48:59 – Institutions, speed, and structural reform53:27 – If Democrats win the House, what next55:43 – Permitting reform59:06 – State utilities, coal, and getting involved
0:00
1:04:34
Download MP3
Show notes
This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.volts.wtf/subscribeOn September 14, I sat down with Leah Stokes in front of a live audience at Seattle’s Town Hall to talk about her new book, The Carbon Wave. It’s an insider account of how the Inflation Reduction Act got made, braided with the story of the high-risk twin pregnancy she went through while helping to make it. We get into why electrification is the heart of decarbonization, the enduring mystery of what’s going on in Joe Manchin’s head, what it means to trade your carbon footprint for a carbon wave, and how much of the IRA survives. It was followed by questions from the audience.Chapters:00:00 – Welcome and housekeeping03:05 – The twins, the NICU, and writing the book08:51 – Carbon footprint vs. carbon wave13:39 – Sam Ricketts and 100% clean electricity18:13 – Why electricity is the core of the solution23:28 – Utilities and the politics of change26:18 – Tech companies and data centers29:11 – Inside the Manchin negotiations33:57 – Why Manchin got to yes38:46 – Trump, setbacks, and where things stand42:55 – Clean energy politics and the global shift46:25 – Audience Q&A: the transmission gridlock48:59 – Institutions, speed, and structural reform53:27 – If Democrats win the House, what next55:43 – Permitting reform59:06 – State utilities, coal, and getting involved