We met Kathy Derks after the Boston Marathon where she finished in 
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, good for 8th American overall. We had some drinks, we had some great conversation, and we knew we had to continue it for the podcast. So here she is, talking about training, running, making Boston goals, and going out and getting them.

089 | Ray Zahab, Explorer & Ultrarunner

A running podcast from Believe in the Run, The Drop is brought to you by hosts Thomas Neuberger, Robbe Reddinger, and Meaghan Murray. But this isn't your typical running podcast– we'll talk about running (of course), but also discuss a wide range of topics, from pop culture to pigeons (not real) to picking up trash here in Baltimore. We also interview elite athletes, industry insiders, musicians, coaches, and more. Follow along as we also discuss our own running highs and lows, as well as our favorite shoes and gear.