Recode’s Peter Kafka (<a href="http://www.twitter.com/pkafka">@pkafka</a>) explains why the two big tech companies are pushing into audio and could change how podcasts make money.  References: <ul>
<li>Read Peter’s stories on Apple <a href="https://www.vox.com/recode/2021/4/18/22390742/facebook-podcasts-clubhouse-audio-launch-spotify-zuckerberg-apple">here</a> and on Facebook <a href="https://www.vox.com/recode/2021/4/20/22394032/apple-podcast-subscription-plans">here</a>
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<li>And listen to his podcast, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0yW8lq5dBrXHEeiNPFqMeh">Recode Media</a>
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