Anton Jäger joins Liz to discuss his new book, Hyperpolitics: Extreme Politicization without Political Consequences. We chat about the low-cost, high-speed political culture that took shape as mass organizations declined while mass participation accelerated through the crises of 2008 and Covid. We get into the economics of platform media, political infotainment, Elon Musk and other Slop-preneurs, and how a politics that feels like civil war can end up stabilizing the same old order.

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