In this episode: capitalism makes you crazy; numbers shrinking; relationships spiraling; losing family; giving up on touring; the beginning of the end.

Interviews with James Riotto, Samantha Crain, and Danielle Goldsmith.

Featured tracks: "Fangless" by Sleater-KInney, "Paint" by Samantha Crain, and "Harlequin Press" by John Vanderslice.